sounds reasonable. any changes planed to address skynet carriers?

Dunno, but if this is a change that is going to drive carrier pilots back to farming guristas in subcaps...well I guess that means there will be more AFKtars to kill. No complaints here.

Surely a "session change" timer for fighters is a better way of addressing a "scooping-to-reset-guncycle-state". At those rates, bombers will have their very purpose of shooting capital ships will be affected somewhat harshly (~15 seconds to begin shooting a carrier). Normal fighter scan res nerf, fine I guess. But in all honesty, Tengus and Ishtars need the attention a lot more.

The real issue is the fact that this is a made up exploit, if it even is an exploit. The real issue the disdain that devs like Fozzie have for Supers and Titans. NCDOT is the largest owner of supers in the game, and let me tell you a little secret, we don't use them, not for months. They are used strategically and very rarely. So when I hear people rant and rave about them being overpowered and an i-win-button, it is completely inaccurate. The days of fishing with supers died in this patch.


Supers are supposed to be powerful and intimidating machines of war, not highly specialized, vulnerable manatees that can be killed by small to medium-sized gangs. Oh, and they are taken down by small to medium-sized gangs. They are supposed to be a force multiplier. They are supposed to powerful and intimidating and able to screw you over in your 200mil isk HAC. They are not supposed to be killed in a comical way by a small force.

So I am calling out Fozzie. Just tell us what the long term rebalancing on Supers is. It is unfair to those who invest in a character and tens of billions of isk to buy one and properly fit one. You owe us that. You owe us honesty and not dishonesty.

Some players have poured over a decade into your game. That means over a decade of subscriptions and time. Now you are telling us that our end game is virtually useless. Now you are telling us our play style is irrelevant . You are telling us that what you can train in months and acquire in a few hundred mil is the true end game. You are telling us that you have to take in every mouthbreather who can fly an ibis. You are telling us to destroy our community, which we like small, to attract the new player.

How is that fair? How is that right?

so by practically eliminating capital drones in sov warfare, there is going to be a mas cull of capital pilots due to this, which now brings me onto my next point at first i was all for the jump fatigue introduction but seeing it rack up, ccp ytou are now killing the game for more experienced players.


jump fatigue and light year ratio it should of been one or the other not flipping both, this is starting to kill the game on a capital and sub cap level, if you want to nerf capital drones then get rid of the assign drones to intercepters and sub caps now that is op and broken, and intercepter doing batlleship damage thats way too op

nerf nerf nerf nerf

@fozzie, iff you wanne get rid of guys who have worked months or years to get there char into such ships, and devoted a lot of
isk/time to get one why dont you just remove all supers and titans............and give people there isk/SP back

Nerf 1: 50% extra fuel consumption
Nerf 2: Max 5ly jumprange with space aids......yeah yeah called`` jump fatique``
Nerf 3: fighters and bombers.....and not a little....90%


Whats next?

Slave sets not working for capitals anymore? like chrystals... or

Same crap iff you look into the folowing..12 interceptors can point a super, and still the super will warp of. iff you build a mobile warp disruptor ( made of 12 warp desruptors) and depoy it, a super will be caught.

CCP should offer a refund of Capital skills.

May as well.. we can all play "timers online"



Who doesn't want to spend years and billions of isk training for the biggest ships in the game, have a character sit permanently in one of the most expensive ships available - And only log it in just to show off how much you spent on the fit.

A billion isk in subcaps should NEVER be able to take down a super as easliy as they will after this nerf.

Now in tidi (which is where any super not shooting an SBU will spend most of its active life when not logged off due to lack of content) the time taken to apply damage will be almost 3 minutes.

This is f#$%^&g bull$*!&

You guys did wonders for sub caps.... but under these obviously biased "in favor of lesser ships" Devs, Rifters online just became Rifters online II: Anti-caps.

I knew there was a reason why I unsubbed 13 accounts so far.... Guess I can - a few more now with a smile on my face.

They have just has their scan res cut by 50% and tracking reduced, so unless you are using them to shoot a Poco or bigger they will be of little assistance.

I know they will "fix" assigning fighters though. It will be "fixed" to appease the 3 people who complained about instead of playing eve like everyone else and finding a way to deal with it.

So you want a valid game mechanic nerfed because - you think it is unfair??
Had you won the fight would you be crying about how unfair assigning fighters is?

An Ishtar and Cynabal get blapped by a gang of 7 and because there were assigned fighters - it is unfair.
You sound like the kid in the sandbox who's castle just got kicked over by "the big kids".


Should smart bombing battleships also be nerfed 22 kills in 3 mins ? By your reasoning, yes. After all, he is kadeshi and you make a point about Kadeshi using valid tactics to win fights

As I said, Eve should not be about nerfing simply because a mechanic is seen as unfair by a few.
Put the tissues away and look at how you can counter the tactic. Scanning the NYX and forcing it to retreat into the pos is a good start. Bring more friends and start popping fighters is another. Ever heard of interceptors - They are Frigates that can scout . Crying to CCP about how unfair it is, should be the very last resort. And more than anything, shame on CCP for listening.

And yes a fighter can get the same tracking as a small electron blaster (with 3 scripted omnis) but it takes 10 to 12 times longer to lock a target as anything fit with electron blasters.
We roam nul regularly, have had encounters with assigned fighters but certainly are not whinging about losing to a valid game mechanic. What we did was looked for ways to counter the threat.
I suppose we could join the small group who would rather whine to CCP but that just seems childish and not in the sandbox nature of Eve, especially when there are many alternatives.

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Assigning fighters and bombers only needs to be modified so the ship assigning has to be within its drone control range of the ship the fighters or bombers are assigned to.

In the battle against PL last December we (HERO Coalition) destroyed fighters so rapidly that PL stopped launching them. If fighters generated killmails our isk efficiency would have been through the roof.

Fighters and Bombers are perfectly balanced for use by carriers and supers but are by some, considered OP when assigned. The only problem is, to balance the damage potential of assigned fighters would render them next to useless when being used by a super or carrier.

..look for solo easy targets...

If you are getting welped with the carrier off-grid, nothing is going to change with the carrier on-grid.

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